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06/13/18 07:50 PM #247    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Carol,

Donald Trump promised to tear down the "lemonade stand"-- that’s why people voted for him.  

Many serious conservatives have and continue to leave the Republican Party because of Donald Trump.  A two-party system is healthy for our country.  We need a well-informed citizenry.

I beg to tell you I am conservative-- we must not "fiddle while the USA burns."  I must protect my country, democracy, and the rule of law.

Show me where I’ve made ad hominem attacks against our classmates or discouraged anyone from posting.  

The fact I abhor that Donald Trump and his enablers are dismantling America piece by piece is an attack on no one.  Please read the messages Paul and I exchanged this morning.

  

 


06/13/18 09:46 PM #248    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

 

and you challenge my sources

 

                               SAD! ! !

 

The REPUBLICAN CONGRESS

has surrendered its power.

The GOP followers of Trump

are forming a cult of personality.

Never would our Founders have imagined

what we'd make of the great experiment.

 


06/13/18 11:38 PM #249    

 

Alan A. Alop

Carol---you post a list of supposed accomplishments of Trump, stating that if he is mentally ill he has sure been productive.  The list is bogus but no need to get into that. Suffice it to say that Stalin helped defeat the Nazis, Mussolini got the trains to run on time in Italy, and Hitler almost succeeded in conquering Europe.  But despite their "accomplishments," Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler were all madmen. Trump has not yet taken us to the terror-heights of this trio of dictator-madmen, and our constitutional restrains should prevent that. But his instincts are as authoritarian and thuggish as his friend Putin. Putin kills journalists; Trump calls them "the enemy of the state." Madmen like Trump are blind to their own frailities and drag us all down with them. Their followers too are oblivious to the insanity until the walls begin to crumble about them.

Addendum:  Political scientists call the reverence of an authoritarian leader "the cult of personality."  A cult of personality arises when the techniques of mass mediapropaganda, the big liespectaclepatriotism, and government-organized rallies are used to create an idealized, heroic, and worshipful image of a leader, often through  unquestioning flattery and praise. 

Republican Sen. Bob Corker just referred to GOP followers of Trump as "cult-like."


06/14/18 02:23 AM #250    

 

Jacqueline Brandt (Duclos)

 

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately I cannot see Fox News because it isn’t available in Europe. I thought

It was just france but recently returned from Portugal and Sweden where it also 

Wasn’t broadcast. I agree that CNN is limited and seems to spend far too much time

Just reiterating it’s anger, confusion and frustration with trump. Both sides seem to have

Resulted in shouting matches.  Personally I think democrats are spending too much 

Time bitching and not enough finding worthy candidates to turn things around. That being

Said I had some Mexican friends in paris last week who live in Mexico City ( one is a sports

Journalist) who have been visiting the states for their whole lives. They were recently in

san Diego on the beach with their families and friends speaking Spanish. They were harrassed

attacked by a group of angry men telling them to go back to their country, this kind of incident

Was new and alarming to them. I do believe that the ambience in America under trump has 

Given free rein to these cockroaches to come out of the woodwork. But that’s just an opinion.

No one in Europe , Canada, Mexico or elsewhere has any esteem for trump. He is seen as a

Buffoon with no culture whatsoever. Being a rich , successful business man seems to be all

People praise because of the mighty dollar but there are other qualities that I think are far more

Important when it comes to ruling the world ! 

 

 


06/14/18 08:10 AM #251    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

“Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,” a trite yet absolutely true aphorism.  

It seemed our national demons - racism, xenophobia, misogyny, greed - which have accompanied us on this admirable venture we call “America” had been tamed and safely stored in the cellar.  Someone opened the door to the basement and our demons are romping throughout the house-- One might even say they have taken over.  

We talk of progress as two steps forward and one step back-- it seems this time we’ve taken a giant leap into the worst of our past.

Alan, thanks for historical perspective and addendum (#4165) and Jax, for international perspective (#4167).  

Silence is betrayal.

 


06/14/18 12:13 PM #252    

 

Marvin Irving Blusteln

What a tennis match.


06/14/18 08:51 PM #253    

 

Larry Metnick















See pictures from June 2018 mini Niles East/West reunion 


06/14/18 09:17 PM #254    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Thanks, Larry-- great pics!

Can you help with names?

How many alums from West?  East?

How many spouses and significant others?

 


06/14/18 10:08 PM #255    

 

Larry Metnick

Janis, I believe there were about 40 people from West and 15 people from East. A few came with significant others. Nobody is better than Sharry with names of attendees, but these are the people I can recall:

John Arpan,Don Weil,Bill Murphy,Lee Miller,Fran Garfield,Jim Archer,Paul Hain,Amy Levine,Don Deck,Jack Kristof,Steve Spritz’s brother,Peter Tortorice,April Mau,Trudy Davis,Scott Mermel,Jim Ditkowsky and Snookie Perri.


06/14/18 10:58 PM #256    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Thanks, Larry, for helping me feel pretty good about my memory.


06/15/18 10:25 AM #257    

 

Sharry Rugendorf (Falcon)

Niles Happy Hour

63.  Attended

Half East  Half West.     Even number of men and women


06/15/18 02:47 PM #258    

 

Frances Garfield (Brown)

Sharry, you did a great job!

---fran


06/15/18 03:38 PM #259    

 

Nancy Doyle (Sudlow)

Larry, thank you for posting the pictures.

Sharry, thank you! It was great fun again at your party at Hackney's.

06/15/18 11:38 PM #260    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Much gratitude for Larry Metnick’s photos and fabulous Sharry’s organizing skill.  And, Sharry, this is my 3rd party without uttering one word of politics. I promised you.  Remember?


06/16/18 04:13 AM #261    

 

Alan A. Alop

Another photo: two year old child cries as Honduran asylum-seeking mother is detained at border:


06/16/18 07:19 AM #262    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

And our Attorney General whose oath is to the U.S. Constitution,

NOT the Bible,

justifies President Trump’s policy and the actions of the Justice Department on Paul’s letter to the Romans.  FRIGHTENING! ! !  

Next we’ll be using Leviticus to justify executing children for sassing their parents.  

And we’re concerned about Sharia Law?

 


06/16/18 03:20 PM #263    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

“The GOP plunges toward its own special place in hell.”   Eugene Robinson

“This isn’t religion. It’s perversion.”  “The Trump administration cites the Bible to justify its right to take infants from their parents and warehouse children in tent cities and an abandoned Walmart.”   Dana Milbank

“Evangelicals’ support for Trump will cost them - spiritually.”   Elizabeth Bruenig

 


06/17/18 11:31 AM #264    

 

Alan A. Alop

ANOTHER MODEST PROPOSAL

The Wall is raising its ugly head again, as Trump just made it clear that absent massive funding for the Wall in the next budget bill, in September, he will refuse to sign the budget and shut down the government. Since 60 Democrats are needed to sign on, this is likely to be a thorny problem. In the last budget-round the Republican House and Senate leaders convinced Trump there was money in the budget for the Wall and he bought it. Now he realizes he was bamboozled.

So I propose this compromise. We tell Trump “the problem is solved" and “you can sleep easy tonight.” We include in the budget a provision to erect a Wall on the Mexican border, “at an undisclosed location where the rapist Mexicans are least likely to expect it.” And we further provide that the Wall includes a “Presidential/VIP Observation Box” that seats the president and 40 other billionaires, complete with a kitchen, numerous viewing devices, and big colorful buttons that allow the president to dump cauldrons of burning oil on asylum seekers, their children, lizards, and others foolish enough to attempt to breach our border. Buried in the budget legislation—in small font--we include a provision limiting this Wall to a fifty-foot section and limit the expenditure to a couple million dollars. We don’t tell Trump about this part and if he learns about it we simply tell him, “Putin is the one who suggested this proposal.”  What do you think?


06/18/18 07:48 AM #265    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Trump supporters continue to be sucked into the vortex of Trumpism which is a system of lies, political corruption, and manufactured crises.  

Political games are not new to either political party, but Trumpism has taken us well beyond the usual gamesmanship to using children as political weapons.

President Trump does not understand or acknowledge his own policy championed by the Attorney General and the White House Chief of Staff and Trump’s immigration adviser Stephen Miller-- Trump’s rationale for the policy changes all the time-- he is using his family separation policy as a bargaining chip in negotiation with Congress which is controlled by his party.  The Republican House and Senate remain silent.  Trump’s family separation policy is being enforced all the while being defended, deflected, denied by Trump and his administration.

Trump could ST🛑P his family separation policy with a phone call, but he is digging in on Zero Tolerance.

 

My grandson is scheduled to depart for Japan tomorrow (Tuesday).  This morning (Monday), before 8 a.m. local time, a strong earthquake in Osaka, Japan killed at least three people, and injured more than 200.  There have been 441 earthquakes in the past 365 days in Japan.

 

 


06/19/18 01:06 PM #266    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Is there really a Trump base standing with him on his Zero Tolerance Policy which includes family separation?

Who's applauding Trump's Zero Tolerance Policy at National Federation of Independent Business gathering in DC?

Please speak out and tell us why.

Finally Republican Senators are asking Trump to rescind his family separation policy.

 

 


06/19/18 02:10 PM #267    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Steve, I respect your outrage and wish I had an answer for why our classmates are silent on the forum...

Is it possible they're not outraged?  

We see what’s become of “I alone can fix it.”  Trump manufactures crises to play political games.

In America we have government of, by, and for the people.   

Democracy requires we engage in political conversation-- which means political conversation is a necessity, not an option. 

Trump and his administration have no plan for reuniting families-- parents are deported without their children. #STOPSEPARATION OF FAMILIES          stopseparation.org

 

My grandson is inflight to Japan.

 

 


06/19/18 08:50 PM #268    

 

Donald Henry Kuehn

1. Tomorrow, my union, the American Federation of Teachers, will file a formal complaint with the United Nations Human Rights Council regarding the Trump policy of separating parents and their children at the border. The allegation will be that the current policy violates the UN Convention Against Torture and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 

2. Trump is using these families, who are fleeing unfathomable conditions in their home countries, as bargaining chips in his misguided effort to get Congress to fund his border wall (you know, the one Mexico was supposed to pay for).

3. The President continues to tell the Big Lie, trying to cast blame on the Democrats for his immoral policy, saying in part that they could stop this immediately if they would negotiate with his party on a new law (which would, I presume, contain funding for said wall).

4. Democrats should respond with one simple answer: WE DON’T NEGOTIATE WITH HOSTAGE TAKERS.

DK


06/20/18 11:05 AM #269    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

It's World Refugee Day. 

Parents are being deported from the U.S. without their children.

This is Donald Trump’s policy and he could change it with a phone call.  

DK is correct -- the children are hostages.  

The world is outraged.  

“This is not us, we would never do this, this isn’t America.”  

BUT  “This is what we are doing -- it’s being done in our name.  This is America.” 

There’s lots of talk, but mostly inaction.  

We need leadership--

we can protect strong borders without separating families.  

 

Go to  stopseparation.org  

 

 

My grandson has arrived safely in Japan.  

 

 

 


06/20/18 01:14 PM #270    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

We welcome news that Trump will stop his family separation policy. 

Rather than phone the AG, Trump decided on the theater of a photo op to sign an Executive Order - “Affording Congress an Opportunity to Address Family Separation” which will hopefully stop his Zero Tolerance policy from separating children from their parents. 

(Trump said he’d sign the EO at 2 pm ET before leaving for a campaign rally in Duluth, MN at 3.)

We'll see what happens... Trump wants to look strong...

How will we reunite the families that have already been separated?

Some of the parents have already been deported.

Some of the children have been transported thousands of miles from the southern border.

There’s no mechanism to match children with their parents and no plan in place for the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Health and Human Services to reunite already separated children with their parents.  Per usual we have a manufactured Trumpian crisis.

No way are these children past the trauma of being separated from their parents.

So much for Trump’s compassion for children and families.  “No one with a heart” could have defended Trump's family separation policy (Trump has)-- he knew what he was doing, it's his plan, he's known for a year he was going to institute this policy--

the glitch for Trump-- he wasn't prepared for the public outcry from within the Republican Party and from American businesses-- i.e. airlines refusing to be instruments of his family separation policy.

Remember when Trump said family separation policy is required by law, his hands are tied?-- he instituted the policy to separate children from their parents.  Sadly he now signed an EO that does nothing for families already separated and the practice of separating children from their parents could resume after 20 days,

We cannot trust Trump... we must remain vigilant.

 

 


06/20/18 05:52 PM #271    

 

Trudi Ann Davis (Davis)

Carol, you mention Fox news frequently.  My concern is trying to find the most truthful places to read about the news.  So I looked it up and I thought I would share this with you.  What you hear and see on Fox News is mostly opinion and they don't have the same rules as the other stations because they are an entertainment network.  I am not getting into whose opinion is correct etc, as that has been clearly stated by many of those who respond on this Forum.  I just think we need to try and see what are the real events taking place and then draw our own conclusions and hopefully remain civil.                                                                                                                            .Wish you could have joined us at Hackneys'. Be well
 
 
 
 
 
What are the most empirically neutral, objective, nonpartisan and unbiased news sources in the US?
  • The wall street journal (Trusted more than distrusted across the spectrum)
  • The economist, BBC, Google news.
  • ABC, USA Today.
  • NPR, PBS, CBS, NBC, CNN, Bloomberg.

 


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