Stewart Myrent

​Janis - your explanation does not make sense, because you mentioned that Kathy's post & Steve's post "are (presently) on Page 157."  First of all, what do you mean (presently)?  Could their posts move back somehow to an earlier (or forward to a later) page?  Secondly, I can see "Prior Page" at the top, but I believe that you can only go back one page at a time; not to a specific page (if you even knew which page you were looking for).  Thirdly, you said their posts "are (presently) on Page 157."  We are currently on Page 189 (32 pages later).  So, are you saying that to go back to where their posts are, you would have to click "Prior Page" 32 times?  Fourthly, how did you know to go back to Page 157 to find their 2 posts about a 55th reunion?  And, fifthly, is there some index, or archive, available to pull up a specific topic (to tell you yo go to Page 157, for example, w/post #s)?  And, finally, if there is no index, or archive, how did you find those posts on Page 157?  Unless you went back in the Forum, one page at a time, to find them, OR you are, in fact, the archivist of the Class of '64 Forum. 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Stewart, use the box with the page # and arrow to go back to page 157 -

that will save you going back one page at a time...

I do not know of an index or archive to find specific topics on nileswest64...

I remember Steve Spitz posted a response about a 55th about 18 months before what would be a June 2019 date for a reunion.  I puddle jumped my way back using the box with a page # and arrow looking for Steve’s post.

There are (always) 25 posts on present Forum page... that’s why Steve’s and Kathy’s posts are (presently) on page 157.  

Follow the procedure - you should (quickly) find Steve’s post...

Last night I fell asleep watching “The Kominsky Method” on Netflix... I think my quotes are accurate... with a “ • ” which I added using the “EDIT” feature for the post.

In your experience, do Jews use “Jesus” as an interjection frequently? - like Sandy Kominsky (Michael Douglas’ character does) in “The Kominsky Method”.

Stewart Myrent

​Janis - thank you for your clarification, as I found if I go to "Page", I can pull up any prior pages, or posts, if I know when they were posted, without hitting "Prior Page" repeatedly.  However, I believe you were helped, with a frame of reference, to find Steve & Kathy's posts from so far back.  I also believe that Steve & Kathy's posts will always be on Page 157, not just "presently".  In response to your question, I cannot speak for all Jews, but I have used "Jesus" as an interjection, more than once.  Does this mean I will "burn in hell" because of it?  Hope not!  One other thing - several days ago, I posted two items that I thought were absolutely amazing & hilarious.  The first was that by 2090, the average American will live to be 100 yrs. old.  The second was that the first person to reach age 150, is already born.  I was shocked, shocked I tell you, that NO ONE cared to respond to either of those mentions.  I am starting to think that I have a unique viewpoint, that nobody shares, and that my sense of humor, may be a bit tone-deaf. 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Stewart, until this afternoon I might have told you I'm somewhat uncomfortable when anyone says "Jesus" as an interjection.

Jesus was a Jew.

As as Christian, I am curious why Jews say "Jesus" as an interjection.

This afternoon I talked with a Christian who proudly told me he does not watch mainstream news...

I asked him where he gets his news...

his response: "Christian radio"...

"Oh my God," I thought, "the U.S. is in trouble."

I've heard that the average age of death in the U.S. is NOT rising, it's falling...

Why?  Children are being raised on fast food and junk food...

(in fact, obesity is extending beyond the U.S. to other parts of the world as well).

Suicide and overdose on opiods are also cutting life short...

Stewart, lurkers lurk... they rarely if ever respond.

Each of us has his/her own viewpoint -

The Forum has been a place where "ships pass in the night" - change takes time.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

David, thinking about everyone in Alaska now and in the coming days and weeks.  Thank goodness there wasn’t a tsunami.  Take care.  Be in touch when you can. Janis

Stewart Myrent

 ​Janis, I am curious as to why you said, "until this afternoon I might have told you I'm somewhat uncomfortable when anyone says 'Jesus' as an interjection.  Jesus was a Jew."  No kidding, Janis.  So, what happened this afternoon that may have changed your outlook?  Further, you said, "As a Christian, I am curious why Jews say 'Jesus' as an interjection."  Janis, if you believe only Jews use "Jesus" as an interjection, you are either kidding me, or you are sweetly naive.  I have heard Christians use "Jesus" as an interjection & possibly moreso, an oath.  By the way, not only was Jesus Jewish, but the Last Supper was a Passover seder & EVERYONE sitting at that table was Jewish.  So much for religious symbolism.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

The timing of Michael Cohen’s guilty plea is significant.  Robert Mueller delayed Cohen’s admission until after Trump and his legal team had submitted Trump’s written answers to Mueller’s questions which he has now done.  

“CAVU”   GHW Bush, “41”, died in Houston, Texas at 94 years of age.   “CAVU” 

Air and rail travel in Alaska have been disrupted by the earthquake and its aftershocks.  Aftershocks are expected for a major 7.0 magnitude earthquake; so far 80 aftershocks have been reported: ten with magnitudes above 4.0 and three with magnitudes above 5.0 - worse aftershocks than have been experienced before.  The earthquake has caused highways to sink and completely disappear; overpasses and buildings have collapsed.  Thank goodness there are currently no reports of death.  As we approach the winter solstice, Alaska sees about 3 hours of daylight with an additional couple of hours of twilight - it is fortunate the earthquake happened at sunrise.  Most of Alaska’s earthquakes take place deep beneath the earth or far out at sea and do not cause major issues.  This earthquake was picked up by seismometers thousands of miles away in Boston.

[Stewart, take a look: Kathy’s post #3886 is (presently) on page 156.]

DK, what's the news out of Florida?

Marvin Irving Blusteln

Janis.   Change is not always slow.  Ask the dinosaurs.  Catacllysmic events, whether man made or natural, have created instanteous change.

Donald Henry Kuehn

Times like this make me wish I could play the guitar... I could write a hell of a country music song...

Actually, it wasn’t too bad. I finished 4th. No excuses, but I went down there an extra day early so I could adjust to the different (Bermuda) grass and the very fast greens and get a practice round in on both of the courses we played. It certainly helped, but I found the greens very difficult to read and (in my opinion — shared by many) too fast for the contours and grain.

I know this sounds like “inside baseball” for those who don’t play golf, but if you get on the “wrong” side of the hole, putting gets very defensive when the greens are running 12+ on the Stimpmeter (as measure of speed). And when you aren’t familiar with the courses, it’s hard to tell what the “wrong” side is.

No whining. I shot 73, 76, 73 and had a million putts. Well, it seemed like a million, but actually I made 11 birdies in three days, so I made a few, but the ones that got away are the ones that gnaw at me. I was in position to win, I just didn’t make enough putts when I had the chance. All in all, it was a good event and I had a good time playing against a very talented field.

My wife is with me and we are now in New Orleans for a few days before we head home. Assuming the weather in Kansas City isn’t too bad when we plan to depart on Monday, we should be back very late Monday night or Tuesday. We’ll see,

DK

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

DK, you could be a lyricist... holes that gnaw at you...

73, 76, 73   Not bad at all ... you play well.  

a million putts  

11 birdies in three days /  54 holes

is all but birdying 1/5 of the holes... WOW!

Downhill is harder than up, just walking... 

can imagine the suspense to discover what side of the hill you’re on...

All in all, a good event and a good time playing against a very talented field.

Bravo! Thanks for sharing a great run. 

Hope you and Pat take time to enjoy good music and good food in New Orleans.

Safe journey home,

Janis

P.S. Does Pat play golf?

Donald Henry Kuehn

No. She quit about 20 minutes after the wedding! That was 47 years ago last Tuesday.

DK 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

DK, did Pat win your heart playing golf or did you prefer playing competitive golf with men so she gave it up?

Happy Anniversary to you both - Enjoy New Orleans!

(you celebrated your 47th practicing for the Golfweek Tournament of Champions?

Did you play the course built in and around the old quarry?

Is the plan to return to the Golfweek Tournament of Champions for your 48th anniversary?

I'm thinking some years your anniversary falls on Turkey Day...

Keep us posted about your tournament schedule next year's season.

In the meantime, keep posting.  It's always good to hear from you.

David, take care as Alaska settles itself... already an additional 545 small earthquakes and aftershocks since 7.0 magnitude earthquake Friday morning... 

Marvin, are you talking climate change?

[Stewart, take a look: Steve's post #3890 is (presently) also on page 156.]

Donald Henry Kuehn

Yes, we played both the Quarry and the Ranch. The Q is very dramatic, especially the holes 14 - 17 that do run around and into the quarry. In the last round on Friday, I played those 4 holes in 3-under par, but didn’t manage the remainder of the course as well as I would hope to.

Pat tried to like playing golf and made a valiant effort back in the 70’s, but she never really enjoyed it, so she pretty much stopped.

We went to 2 plantations today (can’t eat all day!). One of the most interesting was Whitney. Unlike others we have visited, this one is more museum than tourist trap. It takes the point of view of the slave population in south Louisiana, most of which was documented by the Federal Writers’ Project during the FDR administration. The tour guide we had was terrific, a local resident and descendant of slaves in the area. I highly recommend it to anyone visiting in the area. Better than Oak Alley, Destrahan and San Francisco or the others that show off how decadent whites lived (at the expense of their slaves). They’re interesting from an architectural standpoint, but this one is different.

Yes, we were in beautiful downtown Crystal River on our anniversary. Actually, there isn’t much to do in the CR/Lecanto area, but the seafood is right off the boat, so it was good.

No more tournaments for a while. I haven’t planned my schedule for next year yet, but it may begin with the Jones Cup in Sea Island, GA sometime in March.

DK

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Christians and Jews celebrate light in the winter season.

Chanukah commemorates the rededication of the Temple in Jerusalem. The Maccabees had rebelled victoriously over their Greco/Syrian oppressors; after purifying the Temple, the wicks of the menorah burned for eight days with one day’s supply of oil.

Advent is the four Sundays of December before Christmas when Christians prepare for the coming of Jesus into the world.  Today is the first Sunday of Advent.  Four candles stand in the circle of the Advent wreath-- each candle representing one of the four Sundays of Advent: the first candle represents hope; the second, peace; the third, joy; the fourth, love.  In the center of the wreath is a fifth candle, the Christ Candle, which is lit on Christmas Day and represents the coming of the Light of Jesus into the world.  

Tonight before sunset Jews lit the first of eight Chanukah candles-- the candle on the far right of the menorah was lit with the shamash (a ninth candle). Tomorrow another candle (placed to the left of the candle lit tonight) will be the first of the two candles lit. Until eight candles are lit, a candle is added to the left of the candle(s) lit the night before; each night the new candle is the first to be lit to show the greatness of the miracle which increased each night. Candles are added from right to left, but lit from left to right. 

Happy Chanukah to all commemorating the Festival of Lights.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

David, more than 1,000 aftershocks since Friday morning.  Thinking of you, hoping calm will soon return to Alaska.  

Twenty-two tornadoes hit Central Illinois on Saturday during a rare December “tornado blitz” - to put that in perspective, Illinois usually has an average of 47 tornadoes a YEAR.  

DK, do you need to hustle back to the midwest in December? Thanks for heads up about the Whitney Plantation... a rare experience and insight.  There are half-day cooking classes to introduce visitors to the variety of culinary experiences available in the New Orleans area.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Affordable health care coverage can literally be the difference between life and death for many people.  No matter people’s employment status or income, access to medical care when you need it should be a fundamental, guaranteed right in this country.  

Millions of Americans gain that access through Obamacare, which is easy to get and it’s affordable.  

The Trump administration is purposely making it difficult for people to obtain Obamacare.  

December 15th - last chance to enroll in Obamacare for 2019.

Go to       HealthCare.gov      by Saturday, December 15th.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Marv is helping me think about change and to better understand it--

David may choose to share his insight after the recent earthquake in Alaska...

Things are happening/changing all the time...

We and even nature resist change...

It is difficult to impossible to undo change... extremely difficult to adapt to change.

Stewart Myrent

​Janis, does nature really resist change, or does it really adapt to change, way better than we, as humans, do?  Not sure.  I just got home & decided to continue reading "Astrophysics for People in a Hurry", by Neil deGrasse Tyson.  It was a gift.  I really like Neil deGrasse Tyson, but I have to say that after finishing the first three chapters, I have no better understanding of quarks, or neutrinos, or photons, or dark matter.  I have only done this once or twice before, which is to retire a book, before finishing it.   (I do believe that one other time, the Ann Coulter book - don't remember the title - was retired relatively early.)  However, I have a replacement book at the ready, Doris Kearns Goodwin's "The Bully Pulpit", about Teddy Roosevelt & William Howard Taft.  I have read the first three chapters of this book, also, but it seems way more promising than the Tyson book.  I'm thinking it's way too late for me to get any real understanding of astrophysics, or, if I preferred, start a new career in advanced astrophysics.  I am sick of winter, and being cold, already, and it's early December!

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Stewart, I’m an informed, healthy citizen and “gram”...

there’s a woman in Oshkosh who advertises herself as a “cake guru” - she does not bake cakes from scratch, she uses cake mixes - what she is is a “cake decorator guru”... I’m not a guru of anything...

I would say though, if, in early December you’re already sick of winter, you might either dig in and become a winter sports enthusiast, otherwise seriously consider moving to a warmer climate.

David St. Pierre Bantz

No fatalities attributed to the Richter 7.0 quake near Anchorage;
some collapsed overpasses and roads, but crews have been actively repairing and many are already re-opened.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Thanks for good news and for keeping us in the loop, David.

Take care and all best wishes. Janis 

Stewart Myrent

​David - thank you so much for the photos from Alaska.  I can't imagine going through anything like that.  The 1st photo is shocking, in that the damage occurred on Friday & the road was open again the following Monday?  How is that possible?  Looking at the damage to the road, I would expect that, here in Chicago, we are looking at a multi-month reconstruction project, that would screw up traffic for at least 6 months.  The 2nd photo of Vine Road in Wasila was equally shocking!  Can you see Russia from there?  And I've been complaining about the cold weather here.

David St. Pierre Bantz

A Friend from Anchorage sent this summary:

We here in Southcentral AK are feeling a lot of gratitude and humility six days after the 7.0 earthquake hit at 8:30 a.m. last Friday.  Every person has a story.  As far as we have heard, Friends are all doing okay, and are out there helping our neighbors and/or being helped by our neighbors.  We are part of a low-key but really pretty glorious web of community right now.  People reached out to strangers to offer places to stay, helped businesses sweep up broken glass, gave rides, gave suggestions and countered bad suggestions, checked in on elderly neighbors and invited them for a meal, set up babysitting co-ops, and on and on.  Children were given tasks, too, such as being in charge of comforting the family pet.  I'm proud of Alaskans, and I know Friends were/are in the thick of it.  

It was the biggest earthquake I've felt, other than the 1964 earthquake, in my 59 years of living in Alaska.  A few houses are uninhabitable, three or four schools can't be re-occupied this year, and there was some damage to roads.  But really it is remarkable how little damage there was.  People are giving a lot of credit to building codes and engineering designs.  A small example of this is that my sister's hot water tank started leaking (oozing) at the points where the copper pipes entered the tank.  When we finally got a plumber (some of them had waitlists of 200 people), the plumber said that, since the previous day, he personally had repaired ten tanks that had been damaged in the very same way... yet they didn't tip over, thanks to the earthquake straps that are now required.  

With that said, there ARE people who were injured, lost treasured items, sustained damage to their homes, and (I imagine, knowing how these things work) lost their jobs due to not being able to find childcare for their children, who even now are out of school.

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

December 8th, a day to celebrate winter with the Oshkosh Youth Symphony at their Holiday Concert --

a concert to celebrate love and light and sleighbells...

a medley of Chanukah and Christmas "In the Bleak Midwinter" by Gustav Holst...

the impulse to dance to Tchaikovsky's "Nutcracker Suite" and traditional and "Festive Sounds of Hanukkah" arranged by Bill Holcombe.

Young musicians with the courage to share the beauty of their souls and the skill to cultivate, inspire, and enrich ours...

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

"The self is an illusion.  There is no I.  The ego is a mental construct.  This explains why it constantly needs to be inflated and defended.  It does not actually exist.  The you at five years old, the you at thirty years old, and the you at sixty years old are not the same you - because there never was a you.  If a catchall description is necessary, call yourself life.  Capitalize it if you like.  Life.  That's it.  That's what 'you' are.  'Love your neighbor as yourself,' should make a little more sense now."

Epilogue to "The Kominsky Method"

so-o-o-o-o   Me and my neighbor are Life... we are all Life.