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08/23/18 02:19 PM #372    

 

Paul Richard Hain

There is natural resistance to tell about our aging process.  We all know what I mean.   Let's face it. We are experiencing it.  Hearing aids, moles on skin, memory problems (where's my car keys?), varicose veins, afternoon naps and the list goes on and on.  Nancy, thank you for your post.  You broke through the no-go age barrier and explained things.  We can laugh about the teeth thing because we may have had some equally embarrassing age-related experience ourselves.  And we can empathize with your challenge of oxygen 24/7.

The important thing is to survive.  If our high school forum becomes a chronicle of changes in our lives, then so be it.  How unique it truly is in our society where Millennials are in and Boomers are gray and supposed to fade.  Perhaps, we will be the first generation that tells it like it is: talk about our lives as we really are.

Nancy, Texas just got better by one since you moved there.


08/24/18 11:48 AM #373    

 

Fancy Miss Nancy (Novak)

Wow Paul, your final comment was so kind... It really touched my heart. πŸ’—πŸ’•<>>

Most others who know me scream, “TEXAS?!?!!” when they discover I have relocated. If my big, old Tahoe house hasn’t sold and you actually plan a reunion there, it might be a place where you could stay? It sleeps 14.

Just keep in mind that, although the weather is mild year ‘round, there’s lots of snow sports in the winter and beautiful outdoor lake activities in the summer. So plan according to what y’all like to do most!


08/24/18 01:02 PM #374    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

"America is not just a place, it's an idea."      -- John McCain  9/04/08

John McCain has decided to let life take its course... he has “surpassed expectations for his survival”-- he will discontinue medical treatment.  John McCain died 8/25/18 (four days short of his 82nd birthday). (His mother Roberta is 106 years old.)

 

Paul, I must tell you it’s graying Boomers who think I should fade-- Millennials welcome me, value my experience, accept my support.

I look to the future.

Ron, I took your recommendation-- am reading “The Great Revolt: Inside the Populist Coalition Reshaping American Politics”.  

You’re right: Trump voters continue to “favor” him--

their commitment to Trump is deeply personal-- as one Trump supporter said, “So to ask me what would extricate me from Trump would be like asking me to remove me from myself, from my family, and from my community.”  

I do not call what’s happening “populism”.  I also do not understand how people who would not tolerate the corruption of the Bush and Clinton families are OK with Trump and nepotism.

You (Paul and Ron) and "The Great Revolt" push me to ponder what connects Boomers to Trump.

 

 


08/24/18 07:26 PM #375    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Staying young and vital is a state of mind.  If the Millennials are welcoming to you, Janis, then you have crossed the so-called generation barrier.  I'd hope that we boomers continue to do more of that, instead of withdrawing from the world.  Keep it up!


08/25/18 02:44 PM #376    

 

Donald Henry Kuehn

Janis,

I call it a cult. Who passed the Kool-Aid?

DK


08/25/18 05:51 PM #377    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Think how many years we might live.  

Why are Boomers withdrawing from the world?  Paul, your words are kind, but your message is sad.  

Listening is important to meaningful exchanges and relationships, honesty and truth are too.

A local friend asks the same question as Carol:

"Why don't people like Trump?"

My question:

Why are Boomers connected to Trump? protective of Trump? trust only Trump?

 

How does one read the quote--

“So to ask me what would extricate me from Trump would be like asking me to remove me from myself, from my family, and from my community”

and not be alarmed?  Is this not blind trust?

 

I get along with Millennials because I listen and explore new ideas-- engaging with Millennials gives me hope for the future.  It is because I want to touch the future that Millennials and I engage.  (Don’t misunderstand me, Boomers don’t have a corner on shutting people out.)

What has Trump done to give anyone confidence he will protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid?  

I hope we all - publicly or privately - address both questions:

Why don't people like Trump?

Why are Boomers connected to Trump?

 


08/26/18 12:04 PM #378    

 

David St. Pierre Bantz

From our first ever gathering:

daughters Viva and Davida, brother Larry, sister JoAnn, me, spouse Joan

Daughters Viva and Davida, brother Larry, sister JoAnn, me, wife Joan, sister Sandy 
​on Camano Island, WA, August 2018


08/27/18 07:41 AM #379    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Absolutely wonderful story and pictures, David.

Janis, I did not intend for my comment to be sad.  Crossing generations like you state is natural for some, while others might not want to make the effort.  I encourage doing so.  Listen and share.  It’s not just about politics, but life experiences, long marriage, surviving the odds, history, how to use tools and make something.  Computers, how to use you phone, what they did (or didn’t) learn in school: ask a Gen-X or Millennial.  The last one I mentioned is personal to me as I invested 43 years in public education and saw many changes that affected what children learned.  Ron, as a teacher for many years what was your experience with the changes in school over the years?

 


08/27/18 01:16 PM #380    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Paul, out of your experience what changes have you observed over the years in education?  

 

“Each year, tens of millions of student loan borrowers struggle to stay afloat.”

The federal official working on behalf of the “44 million Americans struggling with student loan debt-- cutting through red tape, demanding systematic reforms when borrowers are harmed, and serving as the primary financial regulator tasked with holding student loan companies accountable when they break the law” has stepped down from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.  

In a scathing resignation letter, Seth Frotman says current leadership “has turned its back on young people and their financial futures.”  In his letter, Frotman accuses the Trump administration of undermining the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and its ability to protect student borrowers from predatory lending practices.  “Instead” the Trump administration has “used the Bureau to serve the wishes of the most powerful financial companies in America.”

 


08/28/18 10:21 PM #381    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Janis,

Your question about what changes in education I have seen in 43 years really caught me unprepared to answer.  I am better at listening to teachers and parents, liking to hear things that not only confirm, but also conflict with my own beliefs.  I do believe I can spot a dedicated teacher that is devoted to their students with very little input.  That’s why I asked for Ron Zager’s opinion.  I’m guessing he’s the kind of teacher I’d love to have in my school.

Enough delay of answering you.  I took a walk last night thinking about your question, not sure I could begin to tell my experience in some concise answer.  I realized an important part of my career was shaped by my early years as a teacher.  If I focus on one change in education that I feel is most important, it is educating students with disabilities.

I started teaching on the cusp of education for persons with special needs. In 1975, Congress passed the Education of All Handicapped Children Act, P.L. 94-142, and later, the Individual with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) P.L. 101-476, in 1975.  

I started teaching in 1968. Fairview School District 72 in Skokie was ahead of its time.  We were already expected to include children with physical, cognitive and emotional problems in our classes.  We had lots of support from physical therapists, psychologists and social workers. It was experimental in the early stages of how to educate kids with disabilities in regular schools.  With no special training to work with disabled students, but confident I could learn I became part of a team of teachers each with a specialty.

Seven years later, I retold my special education teaching experience as part of an interview for my first elementary school principal job in a very poor school district.  My new superintendent said, “You’re hired.  And, I’m making you our district Special Education and Title I coordinator.”  What did he say?.  Holy crap!  This was way more than I expected, but there I was faced with running my school and guiding the special education program for 47 children identified with learning disabilities out of 1,600 students district wide.  I had 1.5 travelling teachers of Learning Disabilities, a half-time speech therapist and two full-time reading specialists serving all four schools, K-8. Admittedly, the first year was totally experimental.  The second year, we worked from the text of the law with assistance from the county cooperative and built a respectable program where the children were taught in one of two ways: they were in a special education classroom or a travelling special education teacher would pull a small group out of class and work with their deficit areas.

Some years at this went by.  Our program had grown to 250 students and a larger special education staff.  I was becoming convinced that we were going about this the wrong way. Kids really were not getting better.  Separate classes and pulling kids out of class was not the best we could do.  IDEA says children with disabilities are to be educated “with their peers.”  This meant literally in regular classes where they can socially interact, learn norms, be challenged,  develop cooperation, play and horse around with all the others. This change was not something that could be imposed.  It would have to grow from within the faculty as a good idea.  Acceptance depended on trust.

I am self-described as a transformational leader.  I empower those who desire to become leaders among their peers. This takes several years.  I hired two special education teachers who believed like me.  Over two years, they developed rapport with regular classroom teachers and the special ed support staff of speech therapists, psychologists and reading specialists.  These two teachers helped me identify leaders from the regular staff that were interested in fully including kids with disabilities in regular classes.  The power of peer encouragement brought teachers from the periphery on-board as team members.  No teacher was forced to participate, and I ran a regular program for them.

My school was a fourth and fifth grade intermediate building where all children from across the district (47 miles of half rural, half villages). When we had the plan fully developed, and most importantly, the teachers ready, we met with all the severely learning disabled student parents and explained that next year, we were going to enroll their children in regular classes with a regular curriculum and bring our staff into the rooms to help their children and the teachers. These children had never been in a regular education class.  Faculty members explained the details.  These were teachers who the community respected for their judgment and teaching skills.  Not even one parent objected to the idea!  In fact, some said this is what they had hoped for all along.

The Board of Education was apprised of the plan and gave their consent.  My job was to watch everything in real-time, meet with my teachers frequently to find solutions for problems that developed. Their ownership made my job different from a typical administrative role.  We were not a top-down organization.  We were level and I had my role.  I was always available and would go where needed.  The relationship was not the typical administrator/teacher construct. The respect I had for what my teachers and support staff was reflected in their respect for me.  We ended the first year with more teachers that wanted to participate next year.  The parents all wanted their children to continue in the program next year, as well.

My faculty was not some pushover namby-pambys.  No, my teachers were union officers and members.  When they got some push back from teachers at other schools that didn’t like what they were doing, let’s just say, they silenced it effectively. But, that did not stop them from expressing themselves.

Collective bargaining with the Board of Education had begun to break down. My school building contained the School Board offices.  My teachers decided to show their displeasure by removing all displays of student work in the halls and to stand on either side of the sidewalk as school board members entered the building.  This incensed the board members.  They called me in closed session and demanded I do something to stop it or they would hold me accountable.  

I had nothing to do with the teacher’s decision.  Here’s what happened.  I held a faculty meeting after school with the usual popcorn, soft drinks and laughter.  The laughter was overheard in the hall, the reports of which made some board members suspicious that the laughter had been about them.  I finally got serious with the teachers.  I told them I understood what they were doing and would not step in their way if they want to continue.  I told them their protest hit the mark because the school board hit the ceiling.  Cheers and high fives erupted.  Then, I reminded them that I answer directly to the board of education and they intend to punish me if the protest continues.  I told them there was nothing they could do that could permanently hurt my 22 years of experience and support in the community, so they should do what they thought best.  I left the faculty room and went to my office.  They met and then left the building.

The next day, all the student work and decorations were back on display.  At their next meeting, the board members came and went without the “walk of shame.”  You would think the board members would be happy.  No, they were madder at me than ever.  Back in another closed session of the board the conversation went like this: “Were you behind this all along?”  No, I had nothing to do with it.  “What did you threaten them with to make them give in?”  Nothing, they did it themselves.  My superintendent was doing one of those folded-arm things where you are holding the corners of your mouth down to keep from smiling.  I knew I had his support, but it was my battle to win. And, I did.  Not only was I the winner, but the teachers and a great program that served children with disabilities better than anything I experienced in 22 years as principal.

I took on a new role, still supervising a newly hired special education coordinator and expanding technology program, but now I was the CFO of the school district, hired by the same board of education ready to hang me out to dry a couple of years earlier.

There is an ethnography written in the early 1960’s called, “The Man In The PrincipaI’s Office,” about the life of a principal in Northbrook, Illinois. There is usually only one principal and many teachers in a school.  The author wanted to describe what an elementary school principal does with their day.  It is an interesting, but dated insight into an occupation that you can make solitary or enormously interactive.  I’m the latter type, yet to this day many school principals deal with the legalistic and mundane in isolation, missing out on the joy that comes from taking calculated risks for the sake of the children. 

I hope you see how important educating children with disabilities is to me. I put my all into it and the results were rewarding for teachers, parents and especially, the children.  I see members of my old faculty on occasion these days.  Hugs, a cup of coffee or two and lots of good memories get retold.  This was my finest sense of accomplishment as an educator. There were others, but this one is tops. As you may imagine, not everything that happened in 43 years was so good.  But, that’s a story for another time.


08/29/18 09:58 AM #382    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Paul, your interest in educating children with disabilities is commendable.  The emphasis on special education is certainly a significant change that has occurred in public schools over the years.  It is interesting how rapidly your program grew.  For obvious reasons, children with special needs require more resources and benefit from structural support within the educational system.  In light of your lifelong commitment and the way the current administration is dismantling those critical structures, your support of Donald Trump puzzles me.

 


08/29/18 11:10 AM #383    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Janis,

Education should not be a federal government thing.  That's a shocker to many.  What I did needed just the imputus of 94-142 and 101-467 to get the ball rolling.  Beyond just a starting principle to educate Americans with disabiities, the accompanying laws caused huge mistakes to be made in how children were being educated because of the litigous, complicated rules.  Federal involvement did not breathe life into special education, it strangled it.  The concept of the law was good.   What I did was to develop a local solution that met the guiding principles of the law.

Education is, in my opinion not specifically enumerated in the Constitution and is delegated to the states.  The states delegate much authority (varies from state-to-state) to local school boards.  Having participated in regular school board meetings for 37 years, I have observed a willingness to defer to "government mandates" that errode local control of the curriculum.  Not wanting to drift to another topic here.  What I am saying is the local school board, elected by the people are directly accountable and should exercise their lawful authority over what is taught in their schools.  Again, I do not want to swerve in a different discussion, which would be easy here.  In short, I agree with the administration's effort to reduce the Department of Education footprint from what it is today.


08/29/18 11:12 AM #384    

 

Dennis G. Walter

It sure is a shame that the GOP won't attend to our country's critical needs regarding healthcare, infrastructure, poverty, equality, immigration reform, cyber security and much more with even a fraction of the effort Mr Hain devoted to his lifes work. I would state that they are actually doing the exact opposite but that doesn't begin to tell the story of their constant damage to the middle class and impoverished they selfishly enjoy.


08/29/18 12:08 PM #385    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Paul, you forget the general Welfare clause of the Constitution.  In many school districts there would be no special education were it not for the federal government.  

Dennis, I agree.  It is a shame the GOP won’t attend to our country’s critical needs, and in fact, by doing the exact opposite, are doing constant damage to the general welfare of our nation.

Paul, are you listening?  I have no sense that you grapple with the insight many share with you? 

 


08/29/18 03:32 PM #386    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Why is it so difficult to embrace “the general Welfare” clause of the Constitution?

Providing for the welfare of the general public is a basic goal of government.  Article I of the Constitution grants Congress the power “to provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States.”

Donald Trump is transactional-- he treats people with a lack of respect.  He is surrounded by an administration and GOP Congress, and supported by voters who enable him to disregard who we are as a people.  

Much to our detriment, Donald Trump is a transformational president.

 


08/29/18 10:59 PM #387    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Janis, I have not forgotten the "General Welfare" clause in Article 1.  How do you reconcile it to the Founder's concept of a limited federal government? Unlimited spending for the general welfare, or limited federal government?  It cannot be both.  

I stated appreciation for the principles contained in the Education For All Handicapped Children Act and the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act. The balance of those laws run amuck.  They waste precious dollars on administrative overhead and harm more children than they help.  The six principles for educating children with disabilities expressed in P.L. 94-142 and P.L. 101-467 were inspired, in my opinion and made binding by Congress.  Before going any further, they should have realized they were reaching beyond their constitutional enumerated powers, and turned it over to the states at that point. 

 


08/30/18 11:11 AM #388    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Paul, when I read your post on changes to education I did not expect to see you as a flexible educator and administrator.  Do you not believe our Founding Fathers were capable of the same flexibility and similar confidence in the American people when they wrote the Constitution as you demonstrated and expected of teachers?  Our Founding Fathers' purpose was to write a document that would provide flexibility and be viable in the future they could not foresee.  Founder Thomas Jefferson suggested a revolution every 20 years.  I do not believe our Founding Fathers expected us to make an idol of the Constitution. 

 

What is love?  Love is ALIVE.

 

 


08/30/18 03:49 PM #389    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Not Max, today. . . Just sweet sister, Marcie.  She is not like Max.  She is a watch dog by nature; inquisitive about strangers; loves attention; playful; loses attention in you in a few minutes, while Max is very attentive; exhuberant when he meets you; entertains; schmoozes and makes people real happy.  They compliment each other's personality.  She weighs 51 pounds.  Max is 90 (Poodle on steroids!!).


08/30/18 04:35 PM #390    

 

Paul Richard Hain

Janis,

The Founding Fathers had much more responsibility than I had. I don't know if flexibility was even a desirable trait for them. They did expect changes would be made and included an amendment process, intentionally difficult so as not to change without careful thought and widespread approval.  Jefferson is attributed with having said revolution was a possibility every 20 years or so.

What I did with special education was very different than the traditional diagnose, pull out, treat, replace model. Test results on the severely learning disabled students in our program showed they kept up with their class acdemically by being included with students without disabilities and they built strong friendships, participation in sports and other social situations.  Long-term longitudinal studies show that as adults they are still learning disabled.  However, the social skills coming from integration with the general public serve them well as being successful adults.

I guess you could describe what I and my teachers did as flexible.  We chose a different path to meet the six principles Congress mandated for students with disabilities.  Those six principles are: 1) A free, appropriate public education; 2) In the least restrictive environment; 3) With an individualized educational plan; 4) With a procedural due process to resolve conflict; 5) Assessment of the child in a non-discrimnatory manner; and 6) Parental participation.  I chose to not be legalistically procedural treating kids like subjects, objects or patients.  Treat them like children, for God' sake!  Assist them in their class with other children by bringing the specialists to help.  Other kids benefit from having another team member in the classroom, such as with speech and language practice sessions.  We developed a local solution to meet the federal principles.  Our costs provided help for many in addition to students identified with disabilities.  Parents praised it. Their children loved it. The number of teachers volunteering to join increased over time.  But, traditionalist "diagnose, treat, replace" educators were not moved by our success.


08/30/18 07:25 PM #391    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Paul, you’re a traditionalist and proud of it.

I truly believe our Founding Fathers were flexible-- they had to be to resolve the myriad issues they faced creating a nation of disparate colonies.

 

What is love?  Love is ALIVE.

 

 


08/31/18 10:47 AM #392    

 

James Ditkowsky

Richard asked me to post this because he said he was having trouble posting it. I don't know what grade Leon Fax gave him it wasn't in the email I received.

 

From: 

Richard zaitlen

Email: 

Richard.zaitlen@pillsburylaw.com


To all those wonderful high school friends of mine who recently wished me a happy birthday I want to say thank you thank you thank you. While I have not been communicating with you all as I had in the past I have been following the back-and-forth with great interest and enthusiasm. I have been I have been living on the west left coast since 1974 and have A wonderful and if anything charmed life. My first client was a start up company in 1974 called Intel. Unfortunately one of the reasons that I have not been in communication with you is that I have been diagnosed with Al AL ass. While this is not altered my mind and my uncontrollable mouth, it has put a dent in my coordination including my ability to type out responses to the wonderful debate going on thanks to the Mermel powered website as further and Inhanced by Jim Ditkowsky. I bring the subject up not seeking any help or assistance as I am already a rich man because I have spent the better portion of my life In developing lasting friendships and a strong family, but rather to explain why I have not been as responsive as I wished I could be. The above sentence is written as a testimony to my inability to learn the lessons provided to me by the late Leon Fox, my favorite English teacher who was able to see clearly into me and awarded me the outstanding grade of 


08/31/18 11:13 AM #393    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Thanks for being in touch Richard and thanks for the assist Jim.

Best wishes to you both.


08/31/18 12:40 PM #394    

 

Larry Metnick

Richard Zaitlen, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and always speaking your mind. Richard’s mom and my mom were friends from their  high school days, so Richard and I have known each other virtually from birth.


08/31/18 08:43 PM #395    

 

Alan A. Alop


09/01/18 11:52 AM #396    

 

Janis Kliphardt (Emery)

Remembering John McCain: 

A rallying cry for our nation.

Duty, Honor, Country  

to be worthy of our great inheritance

 

 


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