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Created on: 07/08/20 09:35 AM Views: 32503 Replies: 849
RE: Message Forum
Posted Monday, July 1, 2024 10:45 AM

When the president does it, it's not illegal.          
Is that the kind of power we want to hand to Donald Trump?

The 2024 General Election is about protecting the rule of law.

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Monday, July 1, 2024 10:59 AM

    Voila! the imperial presidency.

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Monday, July 1, 2024 07:06 PM

     "Trump will now be free to ignore the law."

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Tuesday, July 2, 2024 05:32 PM

       "We have an illegitimate court."

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 3, 2024 03:54 PM

           We don't have a king,
                at least we didn't,
            until SCOTUS created one.

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 3, 2024 04:11 PM

Both presidential candidates should be examined by a panel of medical doctors. We need to have a competent leader.

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 3, 2024 05:20 PM

  No one deserves to be President of the United States.

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 3, 2024 11:11 PM

  Why don't Republicans challenge Trump's candidacy?

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Friday, July 5, 2024 11:56 AM

I can't help but think about the price we are all paying for Ruth Bader Ginsburg's bet against time.

 
Message Forum
Posted Saturday, July 6, 2024 02:40 PM

"This week's immunity ruling sheds light on something that would have been better kept in the shadows: There's nothing in our system that outright prevents a terrible man from doing terrible things if he gets in power and enough people want him in power. If you think every job applicant is going to be respectful of the unwritten rules, and if you think voters will only support such people, the need to write out rules against selling pardons or trying to steal an election by force and intimidation seems like a waste of time.

"The people angriest at the Supreme Court think that the judicial system should do the job the voters are unwilling to do---stop Trump. Given that I think he's guilty of many disqualifying crimes, that idea doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the idea that the courts should deviate from the rules to do it. Charges should have been brought against Trump the day after impeachment (as Mitch McConnell suggested). It is not Chief Justice Roberts' fault the Department of Justice waited too long and brought needlessly unconventional charges. It's also not his fault that the Republican Party---elected officials and voters alike---failed in their moral and civic obligation to vomit him out like the poison he is."  -- Jonah Goldberg

Jonah Goldberg goes on to say he doesn't particularly like Roberts' answer to the dilemma, but he dismisses the idea that Roberts is the author of his decision. Goldberg cites John Adams' worst-case scenario: "a society so unburdened by conventional morality or the willingness to demand it from our leaders that the system cannot function as designed."

In contrast to Jonah Goldberg, I do not dismiss the crowning blow wielded by Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts who chose to totally disregard the Constitution and our Founders and create out of whole cloth an immunity to protect Donald Trump. 

We are living in the worst-case scenario envisioned by John Adams, and our Chief Justice abandoned the discipline required of his office as the head of the third branch of our government. He compounded the worst-case scenario and dumped the responsibility to remedy our political crisis to the citizenry to do the right thing and demand that our leaders follow our example.

 
Edited 07/07/24 12:44 PM
RE: Message Forum
Posted Saturday, July 6, 2024 04:02 PM

     Senator Barbara Boxer,        
     Who are you calling a nobody?

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Sunday, July 7, 2024 12:42 PM

The Supreme Court went out of its way to protect Donald Trump.          
SCOTUS could have accepted Trump's case when Jack Smith asked the Court to rule in December 2023 
or accepted the D.C. Circuit's ruling on immunity rendered in early February 2024.

 


Janis Kliphardt Emery wrote:

"This week's immunity ruling sheds light on something that would have been better kept in the shadows: There's nothing in our system that outright prevents a terrible man from doing terrible things if he gets in power and enough people want him in power. If you think every job applicant is going to be respectful of the unwritten rules, and if you think voters will only support such people, the need to write out rules against selling pardons or trying to steal an election by force and intimidation seems like a waste of time.

"The people angriest at the Supreme Court think that the judicial system should do the job the voters are unwilling to do---stop Trump. Given that I think he's guilty of many disqualifying crimes, that idea doesn't bother me. What bothers me is the idea that the courts should deviate from the rules to do it. Charges should have been brought against Trump the day after impeachment (as Mitch McConnell suggested). It is not Chief Justice Roberts' fault the Department of Justice waited too long and brought needlessly unconventional charges. It's also not his fault that the Republican Party---elected officials and voters alike---failed in their moral and civic obligation to vomit him out like the poison he is."  -- Jonah Goldberg

Jonah Goldberg goes on to say he doesn't particularly like Roberts' answer to the dilemma, but he dismisses the idea that Roberts is the author of his decision. Goldberg cites John Adams' worst-case scenario: "a society so unburdened by conventional morality or the willingness to demand it from our leaders that the system cannot function as designed."

In contrast to Jonah Goldberg, I do not dismiss the crowning blow wielded by Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts who chose to totally disregard the Constitution and our Founders and create out of whole cloth an immunity to protect Donald Trump. 

We are living in the worst-case scenario envisioned by John Adams, and our Chief Justice abandoned the discipline required of his office as the head of the third branch of our government. He compounded the worst-case scenario and dumped the responsibility to remedy our political crisis to the citizenry to do the right thing and demand that our leaders follow our example.

 

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2024 06:22 AM

       "We're in a hot mess."      
        -- Jonah Goldberg

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2024 01:32 PM

"Trump is screening potential VP picks for worrisome signs of self-esteem.

"As the field narrows, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida appears to be leading in the self-debasement sweepstakes.

"Trump insulted Rubio relentlessly in 2016 by calling him 'Little Marco' and yet the senator is desperate to be chosen. If he has even a shred of dignity, he's done an amazing job of hiding it."

 -- The Borowitz Report

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2024 05:20 PM

      It's time to turn the microscope on Trump.

 
Message Forum
Posted Tuesday, July 9, 2024 05:34 PM

President Biden awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Jens Stoltenberg, Secretary General of NATO.

 
Edited 07/09/24 08:59 PM
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 10, 2024 09:38 AM

 Trump continues rambling about Hannibal Lecter...

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 10, 2024 10:00 AM

 and lying about January 6...

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 10, 2024 10:08 AM

  Which candidate is speaking about substance?

 
RE: Message Forum
Posted Wednesday, July 10, 2024 10:35 AM

 Concern about Joe Biden does not result in a vote for Donald Trump.

 
 
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